good reason to have the same regard for Frogs into Princes. Once again, it’s REFRAMING: Neuro-Linguistic Programming and the Transformation of Mean-. “NLP is an explicit and powerful model of human experience and communication. Using the principles of NLP it is possible to describe any human activity in a. Frogs into Princes is edited entirely from audiotapes of introductory NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming) training workshops conducted by Richard Bandler and.
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Lists with This Book. Jan 25, Creative Choices rated it it was amazing. I truly enjoyed this book. It was written in a seminar format from a workshop he presented. Some people find this style of writing difficult to follow but personally I enjoy ingo. Just one of Many of Bandler’s and Grinder’s older Gems this intl was a real inspirati I truly enjoyed this book.
At the time I read every book I could find that they had written together and not one nl; them disappointed on content. I am probably a little partial because I truly appreciate the author of this book and what he had done on so many levels. Most marketing giants, political leaders, and sales industries use his techniques in everyday. But some of ftogs most important areas his work has touched is still just being discovered in the cognitive behavior and alternative health industry.
These techniques are so universal I see them repeated in many books, seminars, workshops etc. Yet there are so innto that actually understand where the information originated from. Jul 11, Mirek Kukla rated it it was ok Shelves: NLP is founded on the premise that “the kinds of problems that people have usually have nothing to do with content; they have to do with the structurethe form of princces they organize their experience.
Process matters It’s ironic, then, “Frogs Into Princes” fundamentally fails to convey it’s central message due it’s lazy structure and disorganized presentation. Yes, process matters – as in therapy, so princrs literature. It’s as if the publisher came across a recording, transcribed it in its entirety, stamped on a nonsensical title, and called it a day. In the forward, the authors somewhat guiltily admit that this is “a record of a story that was told “, and that they would like to “reassure the reader that the non-sequiturs, the surprising tangents, the prince shifts in content, mood or direction But here, they only serve to confuse and otherwise detract from what might have otherwise been an interesting message.
The “book” is “organized” into three parts, each corresponding to one-day of the seminar. The subject matter of each day is somewhat disconnected, though the central theme of “content-free process therapy” is evident throughout. Let’s examine each day in turn. The idea here is that different information is stored using different “representational systems” visual, auditory, etc.
The hope is that once you’ve determined which “representational system” a person uses, you can then employ this system to better communicate with them. How, then, do people cue you in on intk they’re accessing information? Primarily with eye movements, it seems. If they look down and to their froogs, they’re accessing kinesthetic feelings; up and to their left, visually constructed images; and so on.
Besides having a sort of pop-psychological appeal, this idea has something awesome going for it: Unfortunately, the authors prrinces bother citing empirical evidence. Instead, they call out a person or two from the crowd, and give forceful, guided demonstrations: I guess I didn’t find these primed, sample-size-of-one experiments very convincing. In fact, I did my own sample-size-of-one experiment with an unsuspecting subject: Some cursory googling indicates that experimental evidence is weak.
There might be a rough correlation between eye movements and representation system, but otherwise – nothing to see here. The authors start by noting that “the relationship between your experience and what actually occurred is tenuous at best Made up memories can change you just as well as the arbitrary perceptions that you made up at the time about ‘real world events’.
The methodology here can be summarized as content-free guided meditation, with a dash of pavlovian conditioning. The therapist begins by asking the client to go back in time and relive the unpleasant experience. While this is happening, the therapist “anchors” the memory by say, touching the client in a certain way, or by taking on a certain tone.
The same thing is done with a behavior or emotional tool the client wishes they’d had at the time.
Finally, the therapist “binds” the emotional resource to the unpleasant memory, essentially telling the client: Note that throughout, the therapist has no idea what the “bad thing” is, nor what the “good resource” is – he or she simply gives content-agnostic process instructions.
This approach doesn’t really resonate with me personally, but I can imagine it might work for some. The main practice advocated here is called “reframing” – a “specific was of contacting the portion or part The NLP therapist attempts to “speak privately with your unconscious mind” in, as always, a content-free manner.
The n,p goes something like this: The therapist is simply a sort of consultant, instruct the client on how to proceed, without ever directly discussing the content of “pattern X.
Indeed, this way of ‘speaking with your unconscious mind’ is not unheard of in therapy. It turns out to be foundation for an established therapeutic model called “Internal Family Systems,” where consciousness is viewed as being composed princew various “parts” or unconscious “sub-personalities.
Indeed, the froggs criticism of IFS is that there is no empirical evidence to back it up – a concern that, it seems to me, froga strikingly applicable here. If it doesn’t work, it’s because you don’t believe So, we’ve discussed the content of NLP.
Frogs into Princes – Neuro Linguistic Programming
The question now is: As I’ve now alluded to more than once, the authors don’t offer much in the way of objective evidence. Support is provided in the form of stage demonstrations, wherein willing participants pginces forcefully pushed towards whatever outcome the instructors desire. As stated in the preface, this might have been compelling in the original context, but here, even if instructive, it’s rather unconvincing.
Perhaps what irked me most about this book, however, is the extent to which the authors describe their theory as unfalsifiable. Some quotes are in order: However, that’s not a comment on the method. That’s a comment about not being creative enough in the application of itand not having enough sensory inyo to accept all the cues that are there [emphasis mine].
One is to be too rigid. Princess other is to not ‘believe in it’: And when it doesn’t, it’s because you never really “believed” in the first place.
This kind of reasoning drives me absolutely crazy. Outside the realm of pure mathematics, if a theory is unfalsifiable, it’s absolutely uninteresting.
Summary “Frogs and Princes” is full of interesting, iinto, and unsubstantiated ideas. The idea of content-free therapy is interesting and provocative, and I do hope it’s been examined in greater detail elsewhere.
Frogs Into Princes
I’m intrigued by the idea of representational systems, and I like the authors’ constant reminders that “when you do something that doesn’t work, do something else ” – even if complete flexibility detracts from the viability of NLP as a well-defined therapeutic model. As a work of informative piece of nonfiction, however, the book fails. Thoughtful organization and carefully reasoned arguments be damned: The end result, even if interesting, is ultimately unconvincing.
Maybe NLP works – or maybe, it works for you. In any event, this probably isn’t the best place to find out. Mar 30, Bryn added it. I have never been able to tell if this book is completely unintelligible or really profound.
Feb 17, Joe rated it it was amazing. This is a great intro into classic NLP. Many of today’s books have been distorted with the authors personal views.
Frogs Into Princes by Richard Bandler
This gets back to basics. Amazing how such subtle uses of language can make such difference to the results you get. Not my cup of tea. The style of writing difficult to follow, and that causes frustration. Apr 28, Marc Anderson rated it it was amazing.
Jun 26, Taha Zghoul rated it really liked it. NLP is an approach to communication, personal development, and psychotherapy.
There is a difference between what we experience and how we represent it. Our words connect to our experiences. Someone else’s words connect to their experiences. The word may be the same but the experience won’t be.